Sunday, April 11, 2010

I'm finally going to build a motor for that ride of mine!!

I think i'm going with a chevy 350 small block, what do you think

The car
I'm finally going to build a motor for that ride of mine!!
Congrats, the car is awesome.I'm finally going to build a motor for that ride of mine!!
Unmistakably American the Dodge :P nice.
Good luck turning corners.
[QUOTE=''Leejjohno'']Good luck turning corners.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Harsh!
Props to the previous owner for keeping it in such nice condition... You better do the same...
[QUOTE=''Leejjohno'']Good luck turning corners.[/QUOTE]haha, wait till I get a new/updated suspension for it:twisted:
[QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''Leejjohno'']Good luck turning corners.[/QUOTE]haha, wait till I get a new/updated suspension for it:twisted:[/QUOTE]You could just save money and buy a car that turns corners to start with :P
[QUOTE=''Leejjohno''][QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''Leejjohno'']Good luck turning corners.[/QUOTE]haha, wait till I get a new/updated suspension for it:twisted:[/QUOTE]You could just save money and buy a car that turns corners to start with :P[/QUOTE] But, not near as cool as true american muscle my friend8)
[QUOTE=''Dark__Link'']Props to the previous owner for keeping it in such nice condition... You better do the same...[/QUOTE]

Yep, cus the way American cars are going you won't get any parts for it in 5 years time just like MG Rover in the UK, lol.
[QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''Leejjohno''][QUOTE=''racer8dan'']haha, wait till I get a new/updated suspension for it:twisted:[/QUOTE]You could just save money and buy a car that turns corners to start with :P[/QUOTE] But, not near as cool as true american muscle my friend8)[/QUOTE]

I honestly would prefer an Evo X to a tuned muscle any day, but I would be lying if I said your car doesn't leak awesomeness.
[QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''Leejjohno''][QUOTE=''racer8dan'']haha, wait till I get a new/updated suspension for it:twisted:[/QUOTE]You could just save money and buy a car that turns corners to start with :P[/QUOTE] But, not near as cool as true american muscle my friend8)[/QUOTE]You will have to forgive me... It's not nationalism or anything, but I am a hater of American motorcars in general with a few exceptions.
[QUOTE=''Leejjohno''][QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''Leejjohno'']You could just save money and buy a car that turns corners to start with :P[/QUOTE] But, not near as cool as true american muscle my friend8)[/QUOTE]You will have to forgive me... It's not nationalism or anything, but I am a hater of American motorcars in general with a few exceptions.[/QUOTE]:shock::arrow::o:arrow::?:arrow::(:arrow::cry:
[QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''Leejjohno''][QUOTE=''racer8dan''] But, not near as cool as true american muscle my friend8)[/QUOTE]You will have to forgive me... It's not nationalism or anything, but I am a hater of American motorcars in general with a few exceptions.[/QUOTE]:shock::arrow::o:arrow::?:arrow::(:arrow::cry:[/QUOTE]Precision and efficiency beat all else in my book. Also it's like automatics are actually popular state side as well, which is strange. Anyway, I hope you like the car, that's all that counts.:P
1968 Chevy camaro. Nice, but why stop at a 350?



What are your fund limits?



I'd say, 350 block, bore it out 30 over, 400 crankshaft, (aftermarker pistons or course), crankscraper, '87 or newer port and polished Vortec 305 cylinder heads, then top it of with either a TPI, LT-1, or LS1 intake manifold. 400-500bhp easily.....
[QUOTE=''GTA_dude'']1968 Chevy camaro. Nice, but why stop at a 350? What are your fund limits? I'd say, 350 block, bore it out 30 over, 400 crankshaft, (aftermarker pistons or course), crankscraper, '87 or newer port and polished Vortec 305 cylinder heads, then top it of with either a TPI, LT-1, or LS1 intake manifold. 400-500bhp easily.....[/QUOTE]Well, I would like to keep it at around $1500 or so. The reason I'm going with the 350 is because I already have the block (already bored 30 over) and its like brand new, so thats a really good jump start (money wise)
[QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''GTA_dude'']1968 Chevy camaro. Nice, but why stop at a 350? What are your fund limits? I'd say, 350 block, bore it out 30 over, 400 crankshaft, (aftermarker pistons or course), crankscraper, '87 or newer port and polished Vortec 305 cylinder heads, then top it of with either a TPI, LT-1, or LS1 intake manifold. 400-500bhp easily.....[/QUOTE]Well, I would like to keep it at around $1500 or so. The reason I'm going with the 350 is because I already have the block (already bored 30 over) and its like brand new, so thats a really good jump start (money wise)[/QUOTE]



I'd put a bigger crank in it though, if you already have the block already bored over, but thats just me. You've got a 355ci, which is pretty big, but a 383ci should give a good improvement in performance.....305 heads should give a higher compression ratio, and vortec 305 heads came in alot of trucks back in the early 90's, but finding the right valve sizes would be hard since their meant for only 305ci, but their out there. Wrecking yards usually have a good selection of heads. Port and polish work is pretty expensive too, so you've have to look hard to find the right heads where you wouldn't need any porting. Unless you put a turbo on it, turbos like smaller valves, but I dont think they like high compression ratios, so if thats the route you want to take it'd probably be best to stick with 350 heads. But the best thing for a V8 though would be a blower/supercharger IMO. But I'd stick with fuel injection, a dry one. I wouldn't put a wet one on, even though it'd be alittle cheaper, they wouldn't give out enough power for me. TPI injection is pretty cheap now days with the release of the LS2 and word of the LS3 soon. But if you get one of those, I wouldn't get a pre-'86, cold start for those sucked, and since its bored you'd have to get a pre-90 because of the MAF. One out of a 3rd gen Iroc would be cheap.



Theres no replacement for displacement
[QUOTE=''GTA_dude''][QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''GTA_dude'']1968 Chevy camaro. Nice, but why stop at a 350? What are your fund limits? I'd say, 350 block, bore it out 30 over, 400 crankshaft, (aftermarker pistons or course), crankscraper, '87 or newer port and polished Vortec 305 cylinder heads, then top it of with either a TPI, LT-1, or LS1 intake manifold. 400-500bhp easily.....[/QUOTE]Well, I would like to keep it at around $1500 or so. The reason I'm going with the 350 is because I already have the block (already bored 30 over) and its like brand new, so thats a really good jump start (money wise)[/QUOTE] I'd put a bigger crank in it though, if you already have the block already bored over, but thats just me. You've got a 355ci, which is pretty big, but a 383ci should give a good improvement in performance.....305 heads should give a higher compression ratio, and vortec 305 heads came in alot of trucks back in the early 90's, but finding the right valve sizes would be hard since their meant for only 305ci, but their out there. Wrecking yards usually have a good selection of heads. Port and polish work is pretty expensive too, so you've have to look hard to find the right heads where you wouldn't need any porting. Unless you put a turbo on it, turbos like smaller valves, but I dont think they like high compression ratios, so if thats the route you want to take it'd probably be best to stick with 350 heads. But the best thing for a V8 though would be a blower/supercharger IMO. But I'd stick with fuel injection, a dry one. I wouldn't put a wet one on, even though it'd be alittle cheaper, they wouldn't give out enough power for me. TPI injection is pretty cheap now days with the release of the LS2 and word of the LS3 soon. But if you get one of those, I wouldn't get a pre-'86, cold start for those sucked, and since its bored you'd have to get a pre-90 because of the MAF. One out of a 3rd gen Iroc would be cheap. Theres no replacement for displacement[/QUOTE]Nice ''write up'', you seem to know your engines pretty good, I havn't dabbed around in the summit mags or the junkyards yet, Thats one thing I like about chevrolet, there easy to get parts for and there inexpensive to build (for engines anyway)
[QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''GTA_dude''][QUOTE=''racer8dan'']Well, I would like to keep it at around $1500 or so. The reason I'm going with the 350 is because I already have the block (already bored 30 over) and its like brand new, so thats a really good jump start (money wise)[/QUOTE] I'd put a bigger crank in it though, if you already have the block already bored over, but thats just me. You've got a 355ci, which is pretty big, but a 383ci should give a good improvement in performance.....305 heads should give a higher compression ratio, and vortec 305 heads came in alot of trucks back in the early 90's, but finding the right valve sizes would be hard since their meant for only 305ci, but their out there. Wrecking yards usually have a good selection of heads. Port and polish work is pretty expensive too, so you've have to look hard to find the right heads where you wouldn't need any porting. Unless you put a turbo on it, turbos like smaller valves, but I dont think they like high compression ratios, so if thats the route you want to take it'd probably be best to stick with 350 heads. But the best thing for a V8 though would be a blower/supercharger IMO. But I'd stick with fuel injection, a dry one. I wouldn't put a wet one on, even though it'd be alittle cheaper, they wouldn't give out enough power for me. TPI injection is pretty cheap now days with the release of the LS2 and word of the LS3 soon. But if you get one of those, I wouldn't get a pre-'86, cold start for those sucked, and since its bored you'd have to get a pre-90 because of the MAF. One out of a 3rd gen Iroc would be cheap. Theres no replacement for displacement[/QUOTE]Nice ''write up'', you seem to know your engines pretty good, I havn't dabbed around in the summit mags or the junkyards yet, Thats one thing I like about chevrolet, there easy to get parts for and there inexpensive to build (for engines anyway)[/QUOTE]



Yah, its pretty easy to get some parts for a small block chevy. They a pretty abundant engine considering how many cars, trucks, and vans they've came in during the past 50 years. When in wrecking yards, dont forget to check out the vans. Although the small block ford is a better build engine, its still not as cheap as a chevy, and the performance is about the same between the two. I'm no professional, but I've learned alot over the years. But you should really do some research on the different possibilities you can do, I'm just giving ideas, but makes sure you look up everything before buying and building. Make sure you know exactly what your doing first. This is one thing that you dont want to mess up on. Most people when they build an engine dont do it right and make mistakes. One small mistake could cost you. But if you do it right, you get the girls....its worth the rewards....



Oh, and I dunno what year your block is, but it does matter. Back in '86 I believe, chevy made some small changes to the cast of the blocks, so no all parts will fit. So take that into consideration before buying any parts, and make sure they are all compatible. It should say on your block, I think it should be on the rear next to the transmission. Do some research on google. Find the numbers on the back and type it in the search bar and it should tell you alittle about your block. The last couple numbers tell you when your block was casted, but I forgot what they all mean. Its been a few years....



Also, I dont know what your block came out of, or your main configuration. Some blocks have a high nickel content (Makes them stronger and lighter weight), and they either have a 2 or 4 bolt main (You can just look under the crankshaft and see, goes by how many bolts each crankshaft bracket has. If they have 2, its a 2 bold, 4 and its a 4 bold main. 4 bolds are stronger then 2) Also, the type of rockers the heads have make a difference in power and friction, roller rockers have less friction I believe, but I could be wrong. And the size of the lobes on the camshaft make a difference in lift for the valves. Make sure your camshafts will work for your pistons because of the amount of lift. You dont want your pistons touching your valves lol, that would be a bad day...



It all seems abit technical, but once you know what your doing, its all very easy, and like a second language. And once you get the experience, you can impress all the guys at the local car meet (I assume theres a local hot rod get together in your town on friday nights, theres several in my town). The pics of the car look good, looks cherry, are those pics of your car? Or just a similar car of the same year? If its your car, you want a good engine to match the looks.
[QUOTE=''GTA_dude''][QUOTE=''racer8dan''][QUOTE=''GTA_dude''] I'd put a bigger crank in it though, if you already have the block already bored over, but thats just me. You've got a 355ci, which is pretty big, but a 383ci should give a good improvement in performance.....305 heads should give a higher compression ratio, and vortec 305 heads came in alot of trucks back in the early 90's, but finding the right valve sizes would be hard since their meant for only 305ci, but their out there. Wrecking yards usually have a good selection of heads. Port and polish work is pretty expensive too, so you've have to look hard to find the right heads where you wouldn't need any porting. Unless you put a turbo on it, turbos like smaller valves, but I dont think they like high compression ratios, so if thats the route you want to take it'd probably be best to stick with 350 heads. But the best thing for a V8 though would be a blower/supercharger IMO. But I'd stick with fuel injection, a dry one. I wouldn't put a wet one on, even though it'd be alittle cheaper, they wouldn't give out enough power for me. TPI injection is pretty cheap now days with the release of the LS2 and word of the LS3 soon. But if you get one of those, I wouldn't get a pre-'86, cold start for those sucked, and since its bored you'd have to get a pre-90 because of the MAF. One out of a 3rd gen Iroc would be cheap. Theres no replacement for displacement[/QUOTE]Nice ''write up'', you seem to know your engines pretty good, I havn't dabbed around in the summit mags or the junkyards yet, Thats one thing I like about chevrolet, there easy to get parts for and there inexpensive to build (for engines anyway)[/QUOTE] Yah, its pretty easy to get some parts for a small block chevy. They a pretty abundant engine considering how many cars, trucks, and vans they've came in during the past 50 years. When in wrecking yards, dont forget to check out the vans. Although the small block ford is a better build engine, its still not as cheap as a chevy, and the performance is about the same between the two. I'm no professional, but I've learned alot over the years. But you should really do some research on the different possibilities you can do, I'm just giving ideas, but makes sure you look up everything before buying and building. Make sure you know exactly what your doing first. This is one thing that you dont want to mess up on. Most people when they build an engine dont do it right and make mistakes. One small mistake could cost you. But if you do it right, you get the girls....its worth the rewards.... Oh, and I dunno what year your block is, but it does matter. Back in '86 I believe, chevy made some small changes to the cast of the blocks, so no all parts will fit. So take that into consideration before buying any parts, and make sure they are all compatible. It should say on your block, I think it should be on the rear next to the transmission. Do some research on google. Find the numbers on the back and type it in the search bar and it should tell you alittle about your block. The last couple numbers tell you when your block was casted, but I forgot what they all mean. Its been a few years.... Also, I dont know what your block came out of, or your main configuration. Some blocks have a high nickel content (Makes them stronger and lighter weight), and they either have a 2 or 4 bolt main (You can just look under the crankshaft and see, goes by how many bolts each crankshaft bracket has. If they have 2, its a 2 bold, 4 and its a 4 bold main. 4 bolds are stronger then 2) Also, the type of rockers the heads have make a difference in power and friction, roller rockers have less friction I believe, but I could be wrong. And the size of the lobes on the camshaft make a difference in lift for the valves. Make sure your camshafts will work for your pistons because of the amount of lift. You dont want your pistons touching your valves lol, that would be a bad day... It all seems abit technical, but once you know what your doing, its all very easy, and like a second language. And once you get the experience, you can impress all the guys at the local car meet (I assume theres a local hot rod get together in your town on friday nights, theres several in my town). The pics of the car look good, looks cherry, are those pics of your car? Or just a similar car of the same year? If its your car, you want a good engine to match the looks.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it is my car in the link. I really should be putting a 327 back in it, to keep it a little more original, but sense its not numbers matched I don't think its really a makes a difference and I can always put the 327 back in it later if need be. All I'm looking for is something that sounds good and will get up and go too I don't need gobs of horses, its more of a cruiser8)

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